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From: Ed Masaki masaki@hits.net
Subject: Re: Civil Rights for Brass?
Wed, 3 Mar 1999 23:16:06 -0500 (EST)
At 03:25 PM 3/3/99 EST, Rick10010X@aol.com wrote:
I recently completed the loading of 3000 rounds of ..45 for the long line and 6000 rounds for the short line. 4.1 grs VV N310, Nosler 185 gr JHP, Winchester primers for 50 yd, 3.9 gr VV N310, Star 200 gr SWC, Winchester primers for 25 yd. I loaded into Winchester, Federal and Remington brass, all of which I kept segregated and loaded into boxes with labels to identify the loads and the brass.
I have always segregated brass and shot one brand of brass in a match. I have always been told that this is essential for 50 yd accuracy except for brands of brass) shot almost identical 10 shot groups. In my gun, about 2 1/2 inches center to center on the average.
I then decided to mix them up. I put 20 rounds of each configuration into a bag and mixed them up. I then randomly selected six 10-round groups and fired them. Again six groups ranging from 2 inch to 3 inches. At least on this day, the brand of brass made no difference and brings into question the necessity of segregating brass Has anyone else on the list done such testing? I'm seriously considering forgetting about makes of brass and just load anything that's in good shape.
Rick Miller
Rick, I am glad you found that out. I have been telling our list members how test fire all the guns that I build and maybe they think that I have been in the sun too long and my small brains are fried and shrunk. Every gun that I test I use all mixed brass. even brass with nickel plate don't seem to make any difference. And my average groups are about 1.5" center to center. I even showed my friends that is watching me that even a split shell don't seem to make any difference. They go in the same group. I am very particular about the base of the lead bullet tho.
ED
From: Rick10010X@aol.com
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 08:24:40 EST
Subject: Free at Last, Free at Last, Thank God Almighty I'm Free at Last
All of the messages I have received following the posting of my test results have confirmed that segregation of brass to improve accuracy at the long line is an old wives' tale at best. So, for me at least I declare my freedom from those hours spent bending over a bench looking at head stamps and tossing each case into separate but equal bins. I'll never know why I didn't do this years ago, but tradition and habit die slow deaths. As a member of the Medicare generation, anything I can do to avoid the stiff neck and sore back from bench work is motive enough.
Actually, as a lifetime Expert who knocked on the Master's door several years ago, but who never made it inside, I'm not sure I'd notice the difference even if there was one.
Thanks to everyone for their responses.
Rick Miller